Statistics for occurrence #1 of “Mr. Usher” in chapter 6, page 380 of Hon. J. L. M. Curry , LL.D., William Robertson Garrett , A. M. , Ph.D., Confederate Military History, a library of Confederate States Military History: Volume 1.1, Legal Justification of the South in secession, The South as a factor in the territorial expansion of the United States:

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Crawford and Forsyth in the same manner that he said he himself had once dealt with Jefferson Davis. Mr. Usher , formerly secretary of the interior, tells the following story (in Reminiscences of Lincoln, p. 80) about a speech made by Mr. Seward: Referring to a speech that Mr. Oakley Hall had then lately made ...
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