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Plato, Republic, Book 4, section 424a (search)
applies only to the guardians, and that its main purpose is to enforce their disinterestedness. Cf. Introduction pp. xv and note a, xxxiv, xlii, xliv, and “Plato's Laws and the Unity of Plato's Thought,” p. 358. Aristotle's criticism is that the possessions of friends ought to be common in use but not in ownership. Cf. Politics 1263 a 30, and Euripides Andromache 376-377.” “Yes, that would be the best way,” he said. “And, moreover,” said I, “the state, if it once startsCf. Politcus 305 DTH\N A)RXH/N TE KAI\ O(RMH/N. well, proceeds as it were in a cycleNo concrete metaphor of wheel, hook or circle seems to be intended, but only the cycle of cumulative effect o
Plato, Republic, Book 4, section 425c (search)
“For my part, then,” I said, “for these reasons I would not go on to try to legislate on such matters.TA\ TOIAU=TA is slightly contemptuous. Specific commercial, industrial and criminal legislation was not compatible with the plan of the Republic, and so Plato omits it here. Much of it is given in the Laws, but even there details are left to the citizens and their rulers. Cf. on 412 B.” “With good reason,” said he. “But what, in heaven's name,” said I, “about business matters, the dealsCf. Laws 922 A, Aristotle Politics 1263 b 21. All legal relations of contract, impied contract and tort. that men make with one another in the
Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 449c (search)
ildren it is obvious to everybody that the possessions of friends will be in common.Cf. 424 A, Laws 739 C. Aristotle says that the possessions of friends should be separate in ownership but common in use, as at Sparta. Cf. Newman, Introduction to Aristotle Politics p. 201, Epicurus in Diogenes Laertius x. 11, Aristotle Politics 1263 a 30 ff., Euripides Andromache 270.” “Well, isn't that right, Adeimantus?” I said. “Yes,” said he, “but this word ‘right,’Cf. 459 D, Laws 668 D, Aristotle Politics 1269 b 13, Shakespeare Tro. and Cre. I. i. 23 “But here's yet in the word hereafter the kneading, the making of the
Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 464d (search)
and another doing the same to his own separate house, and having women and children apart, thus introducing into the state the pleasures and pains of individuals? They should all rather, we said, share one conviction about their own, tend to one goal, and so far as practicable have one experience of pleasure and pain.” “By all means,” he said. “Then will not law-suits and accusations against one another vanish,For a similar list Cf. Laws 842 D. Aristotle, Politics 1263 b 20 f., objects that it is not lack of unity but wickedness that causes these evils. one may say,Softens the strong word OI)XH/SETAI. from among them, because they have nothing in private possession but their bodies, but all else in common?
Plato, Republic, Book 5, section 465c (search)
“But I hesitate, so unseemlyAlma sdegnosa. Cf. 371 E, 396 B, 397 D, 525 D. are they, even to mention the pettiest troubles of which they would be rid, the flatteringsCf. Aristotle Politics 1263 b 22. of the rich, the embarrassments and pains of the poor in the bringing-up of their children and the procuring of money for the necessities of life for their households, the borrowings, the repudiations, all the devices with which they acquire what they deposit with wives and servitors to husband,Cf. 416 D, 548 A, 550 D. and all the indignities that they endure in such matters, which are obvious an
Plato, Republic, Book 8, section 556a (search)
aid. “And they are not willing to quench the evil as it bursts into flame either by way of a law prohibiting a man from doing as he likes with his own,Cf. on 552 A, Laws 922 E-923 A. or in this way, by a second law that does away with such abuses.” “What law?” “The law that is next best, and compels the citizens to pay heed to virtue.Cf. Protag. 327 DA)NAGKA/ZOUSA A)RETH=S E)PIMELEI=SQAI, Symp. 185 B, and for E)PIMELEI=SQAI Cf. What Plato Said, p. 464, on Apol. 29 D-E. For if a law commanded that most voluntary contractsFor refusing to enforce monetary contracts Cf. Laws 742 C, 849 E, 915 E, and Newman ii. p. 254 on Aristot.Pol. 1263 b 21. should be at the contracto
Plato, Republic, Book 8, section 562c (search)
and for this reason that is the only city in which a man of free spirit will care to live.Aristot.Pol. 1263 b 29 says life would be impossible in Plato's Republic.” “Why, yes,” he replied, “you hear that saying everywhere.” “Then, as I was about to observe,H)=|A . . . E)RW=N: cf. 449 A, Theaet. 180 C. is it not the excess and greed of this and the neglect of all other things that revolutionizes this constitution too and prepares the way for the necessity of a dictatorship?” “How?” he said. “Why, when a democratic city athirst for liberty gets bad