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EucleidesJust in from the country, Terpsion, or did you come some time ago?TerpsionQuite a while ago; and I was looking for you in the market-place and wondering that I could not find you.EucleidesWell, you see, I was not in the city.TerpsionWhere then?EucleidesAs I was going down to the harbor I met Theaetetus being carried to Athens from the camp at Corinth.TerpsionAlive or dead?
stop here in Megara?EucleidesHe was in a hurry to get home; for I begged and advised him to stop, but he would not. So I went along with him, and as I was coming back I thought of Socrates and wondered at his prophetic gift, especially in what he said about him. For I think he met him a little before his own death, when Theaetetus was a mere boy, and as a result of acquaintance and conversation with him, he greatly admired his qualities. When I went to Athens he related to me the conversation
But I made notes at the time as soon as I reached home, then afterwards at my leisure, as I recalled things, I wrote them down, and whenever I went to Athens I used to ask Socrates about what I could not remember, and then I came here and made corrections; so that I have pretty much the whole talk written down.TerpsionThat is true. I heard you say so before; and really I have been waiting about here all along intending to ask you to show it to me. What hinders us from reading it now? Certainly I need to rest, since I have come from the country.
EucleidesAnd I myself went with Theaetetus as far as Erineum,Erineum was between Eleusis and Athens, near the Cephissus. Apparently Eucleides had walked some thirty miles. so I also should not be sorry to take a rest. Come, let us go, and while we are resting, the boy shall read to us.TerpsionVery well.EucleidesHere is the book, Terpsion. Now this is the way I wrote the conversation: I did not represent Socrates relating it to me, as he did, but conversing with those with whom he told me he conversed. And he told me they were the geometrician Theodorus and Theaetetus. Now in order that
StrangerTake, therefore, the liberal artsThe word MOUSIKH/, here rendered “liberal arts,” is much more inclusive than the English word “music,” designating, as it does, nearly all education and culture except the purely physical. In the Athens of Socrates' day many, possibly most, of the teachers of music in this larger sense were foreigners, Greeks, of course, but not Athenians. in general that constantly go about from city to city, bought in one place and carried to another and sold—painting, and conjuring, and the many other things that affect the soul, which are imported and sold partly for its entertainment and partly for its serious needs; we cannot deny that he who carries these about and sells them constitutes a merchant properly so called, no less than he whose business is the sale of food and drink.TheaetetusV
TheaetetusI think, Stranger, that the other part is called instruction in handicraft, and that this part is here at Athens through our influence called education.StrangerAnd so it is, Theaetetus, among nearly all the Hellenes. But we must examine further and see whether it is one and indivisible or still admits of division important enough to have a name.TheaetetusYes, we must see about that.StrangerI think there is still a way in which this also may be divided.TheaetetusOn what principle?StrangerOf instruction in arguments one method