etudo loquitur, id solum dicitur Honestum quod est populari
fama gloriosum (e)/ndocon). See Schweig.'s note.
It was through this ignorance that the Athenians and
the Lacedaemonians quarrelled, and the Thebans with
both; and the great king quarrelled with Hellas, and the
Macedonians with both; and the Romans with the Getae.The quarrels of the Athenians with the Lacedaemonians appear
chiefly in the history of the Peloponnesian war. (Thucydides, i. 1).
The quarrel of the great king, the king of Persia, is the subject of
the history of Herodotus (i. 1). The great quarrel of the Macedonians with the Persians is the subject of Arrian's expedition of
Alexander. The Romans were at war with the Getae or Daci in
the time of Trajan, and we may assume that Epictetus was still
And still earlier the Trojan war happened for these
reasons. Alexander was the guest of Menelaus; and if
any man had seen their friendly disposition, he would not
have believed any one who said that they were not
re treating him unworthily, a man who gloried in
his circumstances, and claimed to be an example to those
who were passing by? For what shall he accuse him of?
because he maintains a decency of behaviour, because he
displays his virtue more conspicuously?I have not translated, because I do not understand, the words
dti kathgorei=. See Schweig.'s note. Well, and
what does he say of poverty, about death, about pain?
How did he compare his own happiness with that of the
great king (the king of Persia)? or rather he thought
that there was no comparison between them. For where
there are perturbations, and griefs, and fears, and desires
not satisfied, and aversions of things which you cannot
avoid, and envies and jealousies, how is there a road to
happiness there? But where there are corrupt principles,
there these things must of necessity be.
When the young man asked, if when a Cynic has fallen
sick, and a friend asks him to come to his house and to be
take care of in his sickness, shall t