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when they had nothing to do at Troy, and you have not heard of that by Palamedes?PhaedrusNor of Nestor's either, unless you are disguising Gorgias under the name of Nestor and Thrasymachus or Theodorus under that of Odysseus.SocratesPerhaps I am. However, never mind them; but tell me, what do the parties in a lawsuit do in court? Do they not contend in speech, or what shall we say they do?PhaedrusExactly that.SocratesAbout the just and the unjust?PhaedrusYes.SocratesThen he whose speaking is an art will make