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was-- Hill's division10,623 Winder's and Ewell's division's12,000 Cavalry1,200    23,823 Nearly 24,000 men. Of this force two brigades, Lawton's and Gregg's, were not on the battlefield. This diminished Jackson's strength by eleven regiments or about 3,800 men. So his force engaged against Banks was, by the above, about 20,000 men. But this is no doubt an excessive estimate, for in it no account is taken of the diminution which must have taken place between the latter part of July and August 9th, due to the heat and sickness of the season. In the ten days preceding the battle, Banks' Federal corps seems to have lost twenty-five per cent. of its strength from this cause. Jackson's strength was lessened, but not to the same degree. Jackson's losses in the battle itself were 1,314. There seems to be an unnecessary tangle about the strength of Pope's army at the time of Cedar Run, August 9. General Pope reports officially as follows:  Infantry.Artillery.Cavalry
six regiments, constituting Lawton's brigade, five and a half constituting Stafford's brigade, and the Forty-seventh and Forty-eighth Alabama regiments added to Taliaferro's brigade. He had lost by transfer one regiment (Sixteenth Mississippi) from Trimble's brigade Hence, he had gained twelve and a half regiments in addition to those that had fought in the Valley. Lawton's regiments were comparatively strong. Stafford's were not; but if we put them at the average of Hill's regiments on July 20th, or about 350, we shall certainly be over rather than under the mark. Hence Jackson had, exclusive of Hill, possibly 12,000 infantry and artillery. Robertson's cavalry, after its hard service, could hardly have exceeded 1,000 or 1,200 men. Thus the Confederate force under Jackson on August 9 was-- Hill's division10,623 Winder's and Ewell's division's12,000 Cavalry1,200    23,823 Nearly 24,000 men. Of this force two brigades, Lawton's and Gregg's, were not on the battlefiel
r Jackson on August 9 (battle of Cedar Run), General Gordon is not so far wrong. General Jackson had at that time Winder's, Ewell's and A. P. Hill's divisions and Robertson's brigade of cavalry. The organization was, I believe, as follows on July 23d: Winder's division.  Regts. Stonewall Brigade--Second, Fourth, Fifth, Twenty-seventh, and Thirty-third Virginia regiments5 Jones' Brigade--Twenty-first, Forty-second, Forty-eighth Virginia regiments and First Virginia battalion3 1/2 Taliaf which the Fifteenth Louisiana regiment was mainly composed of the Third Louisiana battalion of Thomas' brigade)5    68 cavalry. Robertson's Brigade--Second, Sixth, Seventh and Twelfth Virginia cavalry4 A. P. Hill had nine batteries on July 23d, of which six seem to have been with him at Gordonsville, while the batteries in the other divisions were eleven. Total batteries, seventeen. Now the return of A. P. Hill's division for July 20th, 1862, gives his officers and men present for
inctly states that it appeared after the battle that when Banks led his forces to the front he had in all not more than 8,000 men. . . . General Gordon thus leaves the impression that there was a descrepancy of 6,000 between Banks' report on July 31st and his strength on August 9th. This is evidently an error, for if we subtract the 3,500 infantry and artillery left at Winchester and Front Royal from his total infantry and artillery on July 31st, we have 11,067 as the strength of Banks' infJuly 31st, we have 11,067 as the strength of Banks' infantry and artillery east of the Blue Ridge at that date. Now Pope says that Banks had only about 8,000 at Cedar Run, meaning infantry and artillery, as the above extract plainly shows. Hence the discrepancy was 3,000, and not 6,000; and any one who reads General Gordon's account of the sufferings of Bank's corps from heat and diarrhea on their march to Cedar Run, and recalls the fact that one regiment,. Sixtieth New York (General Gordon says two), was sent back in a body because of excessive
regard to the total Confederate strength under Jackson on August 9 (battle of Cedar Run), General Gordon is not so far wrongight. This would give Archer's regiments but 267 each on August 9. No return of Winder's and Ewell's divisions for this or 1,200 men. Thus the Confederate force under Jackson on August 9 was-- Hill's division10,623 Winder's and Ewell's diviust have taken place between the latter part of July and August 9th, due to the heat and sickness of the season. In the tenout the strength of Pope's army at the time of Cedar Run, August 9. General Pope reports officially as follows:  Infan Banks' corps, sent into Pope some days previous to the 9th of August, exhibited an effective force of something over 14,000 0 between Banks' report on July 31st and his strength on August 9th. This is evidently an error, for if we subtract the 3,5nly about 8,000 infantry and artillery into the fight of August 9th. To this force should be added Bayard's cavalry brigade
July 20th, 1862 AD (search for this): chapter 4.35
th Louisiana regiments and Coppen's battalion (of which the Fifteenth Louisiana regiment was mainly composed of the Third Louisiana battalion of Thomas' brigade)5    68 cavalry. Robertson's Brigade--Second, Sixth, Seventh and Twelfth Virginia cavalry4 A. P. Hill had nine batteries on July 23d, of which six seem to have been with him at Gordonsville, while the batteries in the other divisions were eleven. Total batteries, seventeen. Now the return of A. P. Hill's division for July 20th, 1862, gives his officers and men present for duty as 10,623 (see Colonel Taylor's Four Years with General Lee). He had twenty-eight infantry regiments and nine batteries then, and assuming his infantry to have been 10,000, we have the average strentgh of his regiments as 357. The only portion of his command whose strength is reported at Cedar Run is Archer's brigade, which was 1,200 strong in that fight. This would give Archer's regiments but 267 each on August 9. No return of Winder's
July 31st, 1862 AD (search for this): chapter 4.35
(Seigel's)10,5509481,73013,228 Second corps (Banks')13,3431,2244,10418,671 Third corps (McDowell's)17,6049712,90421,479    41,4973,1438,73853,378 Deduct infantry brigade stationed at Winchester2,500  Deduct regiment and battery at Front Royal1,000  Deduct cavalry unfit for service3,000   6,500    Total 47.878 Note--Instead of 14,500 infantry and artillery, Banks had only about 8,000, from his report to me after the battle of Cedar Mountain. The date of this return was July 31, 1862. General Gordon (3d paper, pp. 167-8) says: Although the consolidated report of Banks' corps, sent into Pope some days previous to the 9th of August, exhibited an effective force of something over 14,000 men, made up of infantry, 13,343; artillery,. 1,224; cavalry, 4,104; total, 18,671, less infantry and artillery left at Front Royal and Winchester, 3,500. In his official report Pope distinctly states that it appeared after the battle that when Banks led his forces to the front he
August, 1862 AD (search for this): chapter 4.35
estimate, it must be considered as unsupported. General Gordon also refers to the-testimony of General Banks, December 14, 1864, before the Committee on the Conduct of the War, in which he estimates his strength at Cedar Run at 6,000, and again on the the next page at 5,000. This is evidently a loose statement from memory, nearly two and a half years after the event, and not to be set against Banks' official report made to General Pope at the time. Hence Pope's entire strength early in August, 1862, by his own report, was 47,878, less 3,000, or nearly 45,000 men. Of this force there was present at Cedar Run-- Banks' corps8,000 Bayard's cavalry1,200 Rickett's division of McDowell's corps7,000    16,200 Rickett arrived at nightfall too late to prevent the defeat of Banks, but in time to stay the further progress of the Confederates. Now as to the Federal losses, General Pope says: No report of killed and wounded has been made to me by General Banks. I can, therefore, o
December 14th, 1864 AD (search for this): chapter 4.35
ral Gordon, which is evidently not included by General Pope in the 8,000. General Gordon seems to have followed in his estimate a statement of General Strother in the Harper for August, 1867, in which the latter puts Banks' infantry and artillery at 6,289 and thirty guns, and his cavalry at 1,200, or 7,500 in all; but as General Strother gives no definite authority for this estimate, it must be considered as unsupported. General Gordon also refers to the-testimony of General Banks, December 14, 1864, before the Committee on the Conduct of the War, in which he estimates his strength at Cedar Run at 6,000, and again on the the next page at 5,000. This is evidently a loose statement from memory, nearly two and a half years after the event, and not to be set against Banks' official report made to General Pope at the time. Hence Pope's entire strength early in August, 1862, by his own report, was 47,878, less 3,000, or nearly 45,000 men. Of this force there was present at Cedar Run--
August, 1867 AD (search for this): chapter 4.35
New York (General Gordon says two), was sent back in a body because of excessive sickness, will not find it hard to realize that perhaps Banks brought only about 8,000 infantry and artillery into the fight of August 9th. To this force should be added Bayard's cavalry brigade of 1,000 or 1,200, according to General Gordon, which is evidently not included by General Pope in the 8,000. General Gordon seems to have followed in his estimate a statement of General Strother in the Harper for August, 1867, in which the latter puts Banks' infantry and artillery at 6,289 and thirty guns, and his cavalry at 1,200, or 7,500 in all; but as General Strother gives no definite authority for this estimate, it must be considered as unsupported. General Gordon also refers to the-testimony of General Banks, December 14, 1864, before the Committee on the Conduct of the War, in which he estimates his strength at Cedar Run at 6,000, and again on the the next page at 5,000. This is evidently a loose sta
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