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[890e] difficult for us to keep up with in argument, and do they not also involve us in arguments portentously long?

Clinias
Well now, Stranger, if we had patience with ourselves when we discoursed at such length on the subjects of drinking and music,1 shall we not exercise patience in dealing with the gods and similar subjects? Moreover, such a discourse is of the greatest help for intelligent legislation,

1 In Books I and II.

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