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In the polities legally established—whether by the kings or others—in the three States, was not this the most important principle?Megillus
That the other two States should always help against the third, whenever it disobeyed the laws laid down.Megillus
And surely most people insist on this,— [684c] that the lawgivers shall enact laws of such a kind that the masses of the people accept them willingly; just as one might insist that trainers or doctors should make their treatments or cures of men's bodies pleasurable.Megillus
But in fact one often has to be content if one can bring a body into a sound and healthy state with no great amount of pain.Megillus
Very true. [684d] Athenian
The men of that age possessed also another advantage which helped not a little to facilitate legislation.2Megillus
What was that?Athenian
Their legislators, in their efforts to establish equality of property, were free from that worst of accusations which is commonly incurred in States with laws of a different kind, whenever anyone seeks to disturb the occupation of land, or to propose the abolition of debts, since he perceives that without these measures equality could never be fully secured. In such cases, if the lawgiver attempts to disturb any of these things, [684e] everyone confronts him with the cry, “Hands off,” and they curse him for introducing redistributions of land and remissions of debts, with the result that every man is rendered powerless. But the Dorians had this further advantage, that they were free from all dread of giving offence, so that they could divide up their land without dispute; and they had no large debts of old standing.3Megillus
How was it then, my good sirs, that their settlement and legislation turned out so badly?
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