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no less than
pain?” “Or between it and virtue generally?”
“By no means.” “But is there between pleasure
and insolence and licence?” “Most assuredly.”
“Do you know of greater or keener pleasure than that associated
with Aphrodite?” “I don't,” he said,
“nor yet of any more insane.” “But is not the
right love a sober and harmonious love of the orderly and the
beautiful?” “It is indeed,” said he.
“Then nothing of madness, nothing akin to licence, must be allowed
to come nigh the right love?” “No.”
“Then this kind of pleasure
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