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[528c] to submit to his guidance. But if the state as a whole should join in superintending these studies and honor them, these specialists would accept advice, and continuous and strenuous investigation would bring out the truth. Since even now, lightly esteemed as they are by the multitude and hampered by the ignorance of their students1 as to the true reasons for pursuing them,2 they nevertheless in the face of all these obstacles force their way by their inherent charm3

1 This interpretation is, I think, correct. For the construction of this sentence cf. Isoc. xv. 84. The text is disputed; see crit. note.

2 Lit. “in what respect they are useful.” Plato is fond of the half legal καθ᾽ τι. Cf. Lysis 210 C, Polit. 298 C.

3 An eminent modern psychologist innocently writes: “The problem of why geometry gives pleasure is therefore a deeper problem than the mere assertion of the fact. Furthermore, there are many known cases where the study of geometry does not give pleasure to the student.” Adam seems to think it may refer to the personality of Eudoxus.

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