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[582a] how could we determine which of them speaks most truly?” “In faith, I cannot tell,” he said. “Well, consider it thus: By what are things to be judged, if they are to be judged1 rightly? Is it not by experience, intelligence and discussion2? Or could anyone name a better criterion than these?” “How could he?” he said. “Observe, then. Of our three types of men, which has had the most experience of all the pleasures we mentioned? Do you think that the lover of gain by study of the very nature of truth has more experience

1 i.e. what is the criterion? Cf. 582 Dδι᾽ οὗ, Sext. Empir. Bekker, p. 60 (Pyrrh. Hypotyp. ii. 13-14) and p. 197 (Adv. Math. vii. 335). Cf. Diog. L.Prologue 21, and Laches 184 E. For the idea that the better judge cf. also Laws 663 C, Aristot.Eth. Nic. 1176 a 16-19.

2 Cf. 582 D, On Virtue 373 D, Xen.Mem. iii. 3. 11.

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