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[10a] Just consider this question:—Is that which is holy loved by the gods because it is holy, or is it holy because it is loved by the gods?

I don't know what you mean, Socrates.

Then I will try to speak more clearly. We speak of being carried and of carrying, of being led and of leading, of being seen and of seeing; and you understand—do you not?—that in all such expressions the two parts differ one from the other in meaning, and how they differ.

I think I understand.

Then, too, we conceive of a thing being loved and of a thing loving, and the two are different?

Of course.

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