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And yet, Socrates, it must be your affair, too, when we have found the path.

Younger Socrates
Quite true.

Are not arithmetic and certain other kindred arts pure sciences, without regard to practical application, which merely furnish knowledge?

Younger Socrates
Yes, they are.

But the science possessed by the arts relating to carpentering and to handicraft in general is inherent in their application,

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