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[181b] But if we find that neither party has anything reasonable to say, we shall be ridiculous if we think that we, who are of no account, can say anything worth while after having rejected the doctrines of very ancient and very wise men. Therefore, Theodorus, see whether it is desirable to go forward into so great a danger.

Oh, it would be unendurable, Socrates, not to examine thoroughly the doctrines of both parties.

Then they must be examined, since you are so urgent. Now I think the starting-point of our examination of the doctrine of motion is this:

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