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[11c] are better and more excellent than pleasure for all who are capable of taking part in them, and that for all those now existing or to come who can partake of them they are the most advantageous of all things. Those are pretty nearly the two doctrines we maintain, are they not, Philebus?

Philebus
Yes, Socrates, exactly.

Socrates
And do you, Protarchus, accept this doctrine which is now committed to you?

Protarchus
I must accept it; for our handsome Philebus has withdrawn.

Socrates
And must the truth about these doctrines be attained by every possible means?


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