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Nonsense because I spoke of paining pleasure, and that is impossible?

Not only that, but because you do not understand that not one of us will let you go yet until you have finished the argument about these matters.

Whew, Protarchus! Then we have a long discussion before us, and not an easy one, either, this time. For in going ahead to fight mindÕs battle for the second place, I think I need a new contrivance—other weapons, as it were, than those of our previous discussion, though perhaps some of the old ones will serve. Must I then go on?

Of course you must.

Then let us try to be careful

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