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[41b] for this may help us to reach our decisions.

Yes, of course; that is, if such pleasures exist.

But they do exist, Protarchus, in my opinion; however, until we have established the truth of this opinion, it cannot be unquestioned.


Then let us, like athletes, approach and grapple with this new argument.

Let us do so.

We said, you may remember, a little while ago,

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