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[42c] nor again can you have the face to affirm that the part of pleasure or pain which corresponds to this is true or real.

No, I cannot.

Next, then, we will see whether we may not in another direction come upon pleasures and pains still more false than these appearing and existing in living beings.

What pleasures and what method do you mean?

It has been said many times that pains and woes and aches and everything that is called by names of that sort are caused when nature in any instance is corrupted through combinations and dissolutions,

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