Plato, Philebus, section 54d

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[54d]

Protarchus
Most undeniably.

Socrates
Then if pleasure is a form of generation, we shall be right in placing it in a class other than that of the good, shall we not?

Protarchus
Quite right.

Socrates
Then, as I said when we began to discuss this point, we ought to be grateful to him who pointed out that there is only a generation, but no existence, of pleasure; for he is clearly making a laughing-stock of those who assert that pleasure is a good.

Protarchus
Yes, most emphatically.

Socrates
And he will also surely make a laughing-stock of all those

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by Harold N. Fowler. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.

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