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Most undeniably.

Then if pleasure is a form of generation, we shall be right in placing it in a class other than that of the good, shall we not?

Quite right.

Then, as I said when we began to discuss this point, we ought to be grateful to him who pointed out that there is only a generation, but no existence, of pleasure; for he is clearly making a laughing-stock of those who assert that pleasure is a good.

Yes, most emphatically.

And he will also surely make a laughing-stock of all those

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