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[112b] and if you have not seen them, at any rate you have heard of them from many people, especially Homer. For you have heard1 the Odyssey and the Iliad?

Alcibiades
I certainly have, I suppose, Socrates.

Socrates
And these poems are about a difference of just and unjust

Alcibiades
Yes.

Socrates
And from this difference arose the fights and deaths of the Achaeans, and of the Trojans as well, and of the suitors of Penelope in their strife with Odysseus.


1 i.e., at the recitations of rhapsodes; cf. the Ion of Plato.

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