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[108c]

Socrates
And I said that the better1 in the case of wrestling was gymnastic.

Alcibiades
You did.

Socrates
And I was quite fair?

Alcibiades
I think so.

Socrates
Come then, in your turn—for it would befit you also, I fancy, to argue fairly2—tell me, first, what is the art which includes harping and singing and treading the measure correctly? What is it called as a whole? You cannot yet tell me?

Alcibiades
No, indeed.

Socrates
Well, try another way: who are the goddesses that foster the art?

Alcibiades
The Muses, you mean, Socrates?


1 Socrates means by “better” or “the better way” the general method of attaining excellence in any art.

2 Socrates here repeats καλῶς (which means “handsomely” as well as “correctly”) in allusion to Alcibiades' good looks. Cf. Plat. Alc.1 113b

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