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[109e] I would by no means take in vain. Come, if you can, tell me who the man is.

But what if I cannot? Do you think I could not know about what is just and unjust in any other way?

Yes, you might, supposing you discovered it.

But do you not think I might discover it?

Yes, quite so, if you inquired.

And do you not think I might inquire?

I do, if you thought you did not know.

And was there not a time when I held that view?

Well spoken. Then can you tell me at what time it was

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