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[167e] Now, do you think there is any desire which is the desire, not of any pleasure, but of itself and of the other desires ?

No, indeed.

Nor, again, is there a wish, I imagine, that wishes no good, but wishes itself and the other wishes.

Quite so; there is not.

And would you say there is any love of such a sort that it is actually a love of no beauty, but of itself and of the other loves?

Not I, he replied.

And have you ever observed any fear which fears itself

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