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Socrates
At least to your thinking, Polus.Polus
Yes, and true thinking too.Socrates
Perhaps. But you said, on the other hand, that wrongdoers are happy, if they pay no penalty.Polus
Certainly.Socrates
Whereas I say they are most wretched, and those who pay the penalty, less so. Do you wish to refute that as well?Polus
Why, that is still harder to refute, Socrates, than the other!Socrates
Not merely so, Polus, but impossible; for the truth is never refuted.
At least to your thinking, Polus.Polus
Yes, and true thinking too.Socrates
Perhaps. But you said, on the other hand, that wrongdoers are happy, if they pay no penalty.Polus
Certainly.Socrates
Whereas I say they are most wretched, and those who pay the penalty, less so. Do you wish to refute that as well?Polus
Why, that is still harder to refute, Socrates, than the other!Socrates
Not merely so, Polus, but impossible; for the truth is never refuted.