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[475b] this will be due to an excess either of pain or of evil: must not that be so?


Come then, what was it we heard just now about doing and suffering wrong? Were you not saying that suffering wrong is more evil, but doing it fouler?

I was.

Well now, if doing wrong is fouler than suffering it, it is either more painful, and fouler by an excess of pain or evil or both; must not this also be the case?

Yes, of course.

Then let us first consider if doing wrong

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