previous next


Why, upon my word, I cannot tell what you mean.

You are aware, are you not, that you hold that the good are good by the presence of good things, and that the bad are so by the presence of bad things? And that the pleasures are the good things, and the pains bad things?

Yes, I am.

Hence in those who have enjoyment the good things—the pleasures—are present, so long as they enjoy?

Of course.

Then, good things being present, those who enjoy are good?


Well now, in those who feel pain are not bad things present, namely pains?

They are.

Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States License.

An XML version of this text is available for download, with the additional restriction that you offer Perseus any modifications you make. Perseus provides credit for all accepted changes, storing new additions in a versioning system.

load focus Notes (Gonzalez Lodge, 1891)
load focus Greek (1903)
hide Places (automatically extracted)

View a map of the most frequently mentioned places in this document.

Download Pleiades ancient places geospacial dataset for this text.

hide References (1 total)
  • Commentary references to this page (1):
    • Gonzalez Lodge, Commentary on Plato: Gorgias, 508b
hide Display Preferences
Greek Display:
Arabic Display:
View by Default:
Browse Bar: