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Ἡσίοδος καὶ Π. λέγουσιν. These were the authorities adduced by Phaedrus (178 B). Hesiod relates such παλαιὰ πράγματα in Theog. 176 ff., 746 ff.; but no such accounts by Parmenides are extant. Accordingly, it has been supposed (e.g. by Schleierm.) that A. is mistaken, and Ast proposed to read Ἐπιμενίδης: but cp. Macrob. somn. Scip. I. 2 Parmenides quoque et Heraclitus de diis fabulati sunt. If P. did relate such matters in the poem of which portions remain, clearly (as Stallb. observed) it could only have been in Pt. II. (“The Way of Opinion”). Cp. Ritter and Pr. § 101 D, “Generati sunt deinceps (i.e. post Amorem) ceteri dei, de quibus more antiquiorum poetarum παλαιὰ πράγματα narravit, v. Plat. Symp. 195 C, Cic. D. Nat. I. 11”; Zeller, Presocr. p. 596 (E. Tr.); Krische Forsch. p. 111 f. For Ἀνάγκη in the cosmogonists, cp. Parmen. 84 K., κρατερὴ γὰρ Ἀνάγκη | πείρατος ἐν δεσμοῖσιν ἔχει, τό μιν ἀμφὶς ἐέργει: id. 138 ὥς μιν ἄγουσ᾽ ἐπέδησεν Ἀνάγκη: Emped. 369 ἔστιν Ἀνάγκης χρῆμα κτλ.

εἰ...ἔλεγον. Rettig and Stallb. rightly explain the imperf. as due to the reference to Phaedrus's mention of H. and P. (178 B).

ἐκτομαὶ οὐδὲ δεσμοὶ. Cp. Euthyph. 5 E ff., Rep. 377 E where such tales of divine immorality are criticized.

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