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οὐ μέλλω κτλ. Notice the change of tense in ἀπορεῖν...λέξειν: Plato uses pres., fut., and aor. infinitives after μέλλω, of which the last is the rarest construction. For the sense, cp. Soph. 231 B.

παντοδαπὸν λόγον. There is irony in the epithet. Socr. implies that he regards it as a motley λόγος, “a thing of shreds and patches.” Cp. 193 E, and 198 E (πάντα λόγον κινοῦντες κτλ.).

οὐχ ὁμοίως μὲν θαυμαστά. The antithesis must be mentally supplied: “the earlier parts were not equally marvellous (although they were marvellous).” Stallb. explains differently, “τὰ μὲν ἄλλα accipi potest absolute pro et quod cetera quidem attinet; quo facto non inepte pergitur sic: οὐχ ὁμοίως μὲν θαυμαστά, particula μὲν denuo iterata.” But the former explanation (adopted by Rettig and Hug, after Zeller) is the simpler and better.

τὸ δὲ ἐπὶ τελευτῆς κτλ. τὸ is accus. of respect, going closely with ἐπὶ τελευτῆς, not with τοῦ κάλλους (as Rückert): “quod autem exitum orationis tuae attinet” (Stallb., and so Hommel). τοῦ κάλλους is governed by ἐξεπλάγη, as gen. of causative object (cp. Madv. Gr. Synt. § 61 b). ἀκούων, “as he heard.”

τῶν ὀνομάτων καὶ ῥημάτων. Cp. 199 B ὀνόμασι δὲ καὶ θέσει ῥημάτων. Properly, ὄνομα and ῥῆμα are distinguished as, in logic, the subject and predicate and, in grammar, the noun and verb respectively. But commonly ὄνομα is used of any single word, and ῥῆμα of a clause, or proposition (e.g. Protag. 341 E); cp. Apol. 17 B; Crat. 399 A, 431 B. Both here and below, as Athenaeus observes (V. 187 C), Πλάτων χλευάζει τε τὰ ἰσόκωλα τὰ Ἀγάθωνος καὶ τὰ ἀντίθετα. Cp. the criticism of the Sophistic style in Alcid. de Soph. 12 οἱ τοῖς ὀνόμασιν ἀκριβῶς ἐξειργασμένοι καὶ μᾶλλον ποιήμασιν λόγοις ἐοικότες καὶ τὸ μὲν αὐτόματον καὶ πλέων ἀληθείας ἀποβεβληκότες: Isocr. c. Soph. 294 D τοῖς ἐνθυμήμασι πρεπόντως ὅλον τὸν λόγον καταποικῖλαι καὶ τοῖς ὀνόμασι εὐρύθμως καὶ μουσικῶς εἰπεῖν.

οὐδ᾽ ἐγγὺς τούτων. Cp. 221 D below; Rep. 378 D τοὺς ποιητὰς ἐγγὺς τούτων ἀναγκαστέον λογοποιεῖν.

ὀλίγου. I.e. ὀλίγου δεῖν. Cp. Theaet. 180 D; Euthyd. 279 D.

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