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διελθεῖν αὐτὸν κτλ. Here Socrates cites almost verbatim the language used by Agathon in 195 A λόγῳ διελθεῖν...δόσεις. Observe however the significant addition by Socr. of the words τίς ἐστιν: he requires a statement of the essential notion (τίς ἐστι) as well as of the attributes (ποῖός τις).

εἴη δὲ τῶν καλῶν. The genitive is not masc. nor one of origin (=ἐκ τῶν καλῶν) as Wolf thought, but as Stallb. rightly notes “καλῶν pendet ex Ἔρως, quod etiam hic positum est ut p. 196 D”: cp. 201 A, 204 D, for similar genn. of the object.

αἰσχρὸς ἄρα κτλ. Socrates represents himself (ironically) as unversed in the rules of logic, and habitually confusing contradictory with contrary notions (οὐ-καλός with αἰσχρός): for the distinction, cp. Soph. 257 B, 257 D ff.; Euthyd. 283 B, 285 A ff., Crat. 429 B ff.


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