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Καὶ ταῦτα...ταῦτα. For this formula of transition, dismissing the subject, cp. Laws 676 A.

οἷον δ̓ αὖ...ἀνὴρ. From Hom. Od. IV. 242, with the slight alteration οἷον δ᾽ αὖ for ἀλλ᾽ οἷον: there it is spoken by Helen in describing Odysseus.

ξυννοήσας. Rettig holds that the following section is an illustration of the “spekulative Begabung” (φύσις 219 D) of Socr.; but it describes, primarily, another phase of his καρτερία. For S.'s habit of thought-immersion, cp. 174 E ff., Gell. N. A. II. 1; similarly, in Indian gymnosophists, Plin. H. N. VII. 2. 22. The similar incident in 174 E ff. is there construed by Agathon as a symptom of σοφία (see 175 C—D).

Ἰώνων. Rückert comments “Iones illo tempore sub Atheniensium ditione erant, unaque militabant”; but most recent editors suspect corruption after Mehler (ad Xen. Symp. p. 75) “Neque fuere eorum in ordinibus, neque Platonis haec sunt verba.” To Mehler's restoration, τῶν νεῶν, Rettig objects that “den Athenern gleichviel ob jung oder alt diese Weise des Sokrates kaum auffallend war, da man ihn genugsam kannte”; while in favour of his own conj. Παιόνων, he cites Thuc. I. 59, 61, etc. But I agree with Usener (Rhein. Mus. LIII. p. 372) that Ἰώνων may well be genuine.

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