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CHAPTER XXV

Socrates protests against appointing an umpire, and in order that the conversation may go on is willing that Protagoras should become the interrogator. The others assent, Protagoras reluctantly.

2. ἐμέ γε. The MSS. read τε not γε; γε is due to Heindorf. The position of τε is usually explained as due to displacement (see on 316D, e.g. by Kroschel ‘nam haec dicit Socrates; omnes laudabant meque et Callias retinebat et (omnes) orabant ut praesidem deligerem’: but Καλλίας can hardly be coupled in this way with an unexpressed πάντες. If τε is right it must be taken (with Turner) as coupling the whole clause ἐμὲ Καλλίας οὐκ ἔφη ἀφήσειν with καὶ ἑλέσθαι ἐδέοντο ἐπιστάτην: this is possible, but strikes us as harsh.

8. ἀλλὰ δή like at enim introduces a possible objection: see on Crito, 54A. The fuller form of the comparative (βελτίονα and the like) is less common in Plato than the contracted.

10. ὥστε. Heindorf cites (inter alia) Phaedr. 269D τὸ μὲν δύνασθαι, Φαῖδρε, ὥστε ἀγωνιστὴν τέλεον γενέσθαι. The insertion of ὥστε with the usual infinitive after ἀδύνατον increases the emphasis of ἀδύνατον by making it appear more than a mere auxiliary notion. Badham's conjecture ἀδύνατον ὂν ὑμῖν ἴστε deserves mention for its ingenuity. For Πρωταγόρου see above, note on 318D

13. τό γ᾽ ἐμὸν οὐδὲν διαφέρει. Gorg. 458D τό γ᾽ ἐμὸν οὐδὲν κωλύει. τό γ᾽ ἐμόν is frequent in Plato for quantum ad me attinet.

16. εἰ μὴ βούλεται. For the asyndeton see above on 330A

27. πάνυ μὲν οὐκ ἤθελεν: οὐκ ἤθελεν is virtually one word: ‘was very reluctant’. The phrase is quite different from οὐ πάνυ: see on οὐ πάνυ τι in 321Babove.

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