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καὶ μάλα -- λέγω. Socrates replies to ἆρ᾽ οὐκ—ἰατρούς; ignoring, or nearly ignoring, εἶεν δ᾽ ἂν—ὡμιληκότες: cf. V 465 E note καὶ μάλα is simply ‘certainly,’ and ἀγαθοὺς λέγω lays stress on ἀγαθούς: ‘that is, if they are really good,’ ‘good ones, I mean.’ There is perhaps a hint that the good physician and the good judge must also be good men: cf. 409 C. To substitute with Hartman μάλιστα for μάλα (as in many MSS) is to mistake the force of λέγω. ἰατροὶ κτλ. The combination of scientific knowledge (πρὸς τῷ μανθάνειν τὴν τέχνην) and medical experience which Plato desiderates reminds us of the standpoint of the μεθοδικοί, whose principles were in some respects a compromise between those of the δογματικοί or Theorists, and those of the Empirics: see Celsus l.c. pp. 9—13 and Häser Lehrb. d. Gesch. d. Med. etc. pp. 245 ff., 268 ff.
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