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᾿κείνοις: those whom Adimantus in effect described in 424 D. See also next note.

οἱ πρότερον: ‘their predecessors’ (Jowett), i.e. the predecessors of our citizens. The expression betrays the fact that Plato is now censuring the decay of Athenian manners, as of Athenian music and character in 424 D. In ἐξευρίσκουσινπάντα Plato speaks as if his regulations were a programme for the reform of his native city. Cf. Krohn Pl. St. pp. 32, 33.

, B 7 σιγάς τε -- τοιαῦτα. Cf. Ar. Clouds 961—1023. Aristophanes mentions the σιγαὶ τῶν νεωτέρων (963), the ὑπαναστάσεις (993), the γονέων θεραπεῖαι (994, 998), and various details of τοῦ σώματος σχηματισμός (973, 983).

κατακλίσεις means literally ‘settings down,’ i.e. causing or permitting others to sit down, as when the Spartans, for example, in the well-known story, made way for the aged stranger at the Panathenaea (Plut. Apophth. Lac. 52. 235 D). Cf. κατακλίναντες in 420 E and II 363 C. The word—which has been curiously misunderstood—is coupled with ὑπανάστασις also in Arist. Eth. Nic. IX 2. 1165^{a} 28. See also Xen. Mem. II 3. 16. After πρέπει supply σιγᾶν out of σιγάς. The older editors read ὡς for ἅς with several deterioris notae MSS.

καὶ -- γέ with κουράς marks the transition to a new class of particulars: cf. Crit. 47 B, Gorg. 450 D al. Hartman should not have suggested καὶτε. It was the Spartans who laid greatest stress upon the points enumerated here: cf. Xen. Rep. Lac. 3. 5, Plut. Cleom. 9. 1 (κείρεσθαι τὸν μύστακα καὶ προσέχειν τοῖς νόμοις). See also Xen. Cyr. VIII 7. 10.

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