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κἂν εἰ -- σκοποῖμεν. Further investigation from other points of view cannot weaken the conviction which Socrates and Glauco have already formed. The phrase is another indication that we are not here proving the Ideal Theory: see last note. Hartman should not have revived Ast's conjecture ἔχομεν <ἢ> καὶ πλεοναχῆ σκοπῶμεν. εἰ ἐπὶ κτλ. See cr. n. Hermann's conjecture, that ἐπεί has been lost before ἐπί, has met with most favour. But ἐπεὶ ἐπί has an unpleasing sound, and εἰ might just as easily have disappeared as ἐπεί. Schneider and Stallbaum (with Ξ and the older editors) read οὐκοῦν ἐπὶ μὲν—ἐπὶ τῷ μεταξὺ δὲ κτλ., but the reading of q is intrinsically better, and the error an easier one. The reference in ἦν (‘is, as we saw’) is to 476 e—477 A.
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