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ἔφαμεν. 476 B.

ἆρα -- λέγωμεν; See Isocrates de Soph. 8 πλείω κατορθοῦντας τοὺς ταῖς δόξαις χρωμένους τοὺς τὴν ἐπιστήμην ἔχειν ἐπαγγελλομένους. To this (according to Teichmüller Lit. Fehd. I p. 103) Plato here replies, and the retort is supposed to be the more telling, because Isocrates, in spite of the sentence just quoted, aspired to the name φιλόσοφος: see Spengel Isokrates u. Platon pp. 13, 22 ff. Dümmler, on the other hand, supposes that Antisthenes is meant, as before (see on 476 D). I can see no sufficient reason for holding that Plato is here thinking specially of either, although the cap fits both.

φιλοσόφους. The connotation of φιλόσοφος has greatly altered or developed since Book II: see II 376 B note, and cf. Krohn Pl. St. pp. 9, 20, 102. Krohn is fully justified when he calls the concluding part of Book V “the turning-point” of the Republic (ib. p. 107). Plato's hitherto ‘Hellenic city’ is now well on the road to become an ‘ensample in the Heavens.’

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