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πατρὸς δὲ ἐκείνου κτλ.: ‘his former father’ etc. i.e. the reputed father of his earlier days. ποιουμένων ‘reputed’ (J. and C.), lit. ‘made out to be,’ is scarcely different from δοκούντων (τοὺς ἄλλους οἰκείους δοκοῦντας in B). Cobet conjectures προσποιουμένων, but the text is sound: cf. VI 498 A note

ἔστι που κτλ. Plato, as Bosanquet points out (Companion p. 305), seems to think it possible enough that the higher education will lead his rulers to criticise the δόγματα of the earlier ‘musical’ training. “But if this criticism is only the negative side of the deepening grasp with which a mature and stedfast mind lays hold on reality, no harm, he urges, will be done” (Bosanquet l.c.). We may even go farther and say that Dialectic and its ancillary studies are expressly intended to place the Guardians in the same position as the original legislator (VI 497 D) and enable them within limits to modify and reconstruct the authoritative δόγματα of the city (VI 500 E ff.).

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