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τοὺς μὲν δὴ κτλ. μέν balances δέ after σφᾶς, and should not be taken with δή in the ordinary sense of the collocation μὲν δή: so that there is no reason to omit δή (with Ξ and two other MSS) on the ground that μὲν δή comes too late in the sentence. δή “priori membro dilatando inservit et vinculi per μέν iniecti nexum relaxans alterum membrum ut nova interrogatione instructum minus miremur efficit” (Schneider, comparing Laws 751 E).

ἆρ᾽ οὐ τρυφῶντας κτλ. Note the usual Platonic chiasmus.

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