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[310] made,) said: As my name has been referred to in relation to this question, it is due perhaps to the gentleman from New York [Mr. Greeley] that I should state this: That some few days since the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Edwards] called upon me here, and inquired of me whether I had heard my colleague [Mr. Greeley] say anything in relation to his vote as to the books. I that morning had received the paper, and I referred him to the editorial contained therein which has been read by the Clerk; but I have no recollection of stating to the gentleman from Ohio that I heard my colleague say he justified the vote which he gave; nor have I any recollection whatever that I ever heard my colleague say anything upon the subject after the vote given by him.

The gentleman from Ohio must have misunderstood me, and it is due to my colleague that this explanation should be made.

[Several voices: “What did he say before the vote?” ]

I have no recollection [said Mr. P.] that I ever heard him say anything.

Mr. Edwards rose, and wished to know if any of his five minutes was left?

No reply was heard; but, after some conversation, (being allowed to proceed,) he said, I have stated that I have no apologies to make for giving this vote. I voted for these books for the very reasons which the gentleman from New York [Mr. Greeley] gave to these witnesses. I stated that I could prove by witnesses that the gentleman has given reasons of this kind, and that that editorial was an afterthought. If the House requires any more testimony, it can be had; but out of the mouths of two witnesses he is condemned. That is scriptural as well as legal.

I have not risen to retaliate for anything this editor has said in reference to the subject of mileage. I have been classed among those who have received excessive mileage. I traveled in coming to Washington forty-three miles further than the Committee paid me; but I stated before the Committee the reasons why I made the change of route. I had been capsized once——

The Chairman interposed, and said he felt bound to arrest this debate.

[Cries of “ Greeley! Greeley!” ]

Mr. Greeley rose——

The Chairman stated that it would not be in order for the gentleman to address the House while there was no question pending.

[Cries of “ Suspend the rules; hear him.” ]

Mr. Tallmadge rose and inquired if his colleague could not proceed by general consent?

The Chairman replied in the affirmative.

No objection was made, and

Mr. Greeley proceeded. The gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Hudson] simply misunderstood only one thing. He states me to have urged the considerations which he urged to me. He urged these considerations—and I think forcibly. I say now, as I did the other day on the floor of this House,

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