Elegiac Poems
“1Since, then, I see your banquet, as Xenophanes of Colophon says, ‘full of all kinds of pleasure.’2
” Athenaeus Doctors at DinnerFor now the floor is clean, and the hands of every guest, and the cups; one lad puts woven wreaths about our heads, another brings round a jug of fragrant perfume; the mixing-bowl stands full of good cheer, and other wine, which vows it will never play false,3 is ready in the jar, mild to the taste and sweet to smell. In the midst frankincense gives forth its sacred odour and water stands cool and sweet and clear. Before us lie yellow loaves and a noble trayful of cheese and rich honey. The altar between is decked all about with flowers, and the house is filled with song4 and feasting. Now first must merry men hymn the God in holy story and pure word; then when they have made libation and prayed for power to do what is right —and that is their first duty 5— there's no wrong in drinking just so much as will bring any but the very aged home without a servant. And I praise the man who when he hath drunken showeth that he hath a good memory, and hath striven well in pursuit of virtue; he marshals not battles of Titans nor of Giants nor yet of Centaurs, fables6 of them of old, nay nor of vehement discords;7 these things are of no worth; what is good, is ever to have respect unto the Gods.8
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“There is nothing surprising in the gluttony of these men. All competitors in the Games are taught to eat heavily as well as to practise; and that is why Euripides says in his first Autolycus 9 ‘Of all the evil things that Greece is heir to| There's none so great as he that strives in games’ etc. —sentiments which are taken from the Elegiacs of Xenophanes of Colophon, who says:
” Athenaeus Doctors at DinnerBut if 't were in swiftness of foot that a man should win the day, in the close of Zeus by Pisa's stream at Olympia, or if 't were in the five-events or the wrestling, or if he should hold his own in the painful boxing-bout, or the dire contest that they call Pancratium —whatever it were, he would be more honoured of the eyes of his fellow-townsmen; he would win the prominent right of sitting at the front in the games and contests, there would be food for him from the city's store and a gift to make him an heirloom. Or if again his victory were with horses, then too all this would fall to him —yet it would not be deserved as 't would be were it mine, for the poet's skill is better than the strength of men and horses. 'Tis very unconsidered, the custom of man in this matter; it is not right that strength should be judged worthier than most holy10 skill. For not though a city had a good boxer, nor a five-event-man, nor a good wrestler, nor yet a good runner —which of all the deeds of man's strength hath the greatest honour in the Games —never for that would she be the better ordered; and but little is the joy a town would get in a man's victory beside the banks of Pisa, for a city's treasure-houses are not fattened so.
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“According to Phylarchus, the Colophonians, who, originally a people of rough and uncouth manners, ran on the rocks of luxury when they became the friends and allies of the Lydians, walked abroad with their hair adorned with an ornament of gold, in the words of Xenophanes:
and so demoralised were they by untimely drunkenness that some of them never saw sun rise or set.13”But they learnt useless luxuries of the Lydians while they were free of hateful despotism, and went into the marketplace clad in all-purple robes, went not less than a thousand in all,11 proudly rejoicing in gold-adorned12 hair and bedewing their odour with studied anointings;
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.3Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner
“It was the custom to pour water into the cup first and then wine; compare Xenophanes:
” Athenaeus Doctors at DinnerNor would a man pour wine first into the cup when he mingled it, but water and thereafter the liquor.
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“They use the forms κωλῆνα and κωλῆν , ‘hindquarter’ ... compare Aristophanes in the second Plutus (1. 1128): ‘Alas for the hindquarter I ate ...' and Xenophanes of Colophon in the Elegiacs :
” Athenaeus Doctors at DinnerThough you gave but the hindquarter of a kid, you received the rich leg of a fat bull,14 a precious thing to fall to a man's lot, a gift whose fame will spread throughout Greece nor ever die so long as the Grecian sort of song shall be.15
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“16To the inconsistency of his ways we have additional testimony in Xenophanes, who in the Elegy which begins:
tells us this of him:And now I will pass to another tale, and show another way;
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.6So far Xenophanes.”And 'tis said that one day as he was passing by when they beat a dog, he took pity on him and said ‘Stop! beat him not, for verily ‘tis the soul of a friend whose voice I know when I hear it.’
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.7Diogenes Laertius Lives of the Philosophers [Pythagoras]
“17He lived to a very great age, as indeed he himself tells us:
” Diogenes Laertius Lives of the Philosophers [Xenophanes]Seven and sixty years have now been wafting my meditations18 about the land of Greece, and ere that there were five-and-twenty years from my birth, if I know how to tell the truth in these things.19
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“20 γῆρας ‘old age’: The participle γηρείς ‘aged’ ... genitive γηρέντος like τιθέντος ; compare Xenophanes:
” Old Etymologicum Magnumfar feebler than an aged man
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“Whether the first to strike a coinage was Pheidon of Argos ..., or the Lydians, as Xenophanes declares.” Pollux Onomasticon
Lampoons
“212223 The poets however often give these forms (third persons plural of the perfect active) the short α ; compare Xenophanes:
and again: (fr. 36).”Since all have learnt in Homer in the beginning24
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.10Herodian On ‘Doubtful’ Syllables
“Hence Xenophanes' refutation of Homer and Hesiod:
” Sextus Empiricus Against the MathematiciansHomer and Hesiod have ascribed unto the Gods all that is reproach and blame in the world of men, stealing and adultery and deceit.25
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“Compare Xenophanes of Colophon, speaking of Homer and Hesiod:
” Sextus Empiricus Against the Mathematicianswho spake of manifold wickednesses of the Gods, stealing and adultery and deceit.
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“Some make Homer senior to Hesiod, for instance Philochorus and Xenophanes, others junior.” Aulus Gellius Attic Nights
“26And again:—
And again:But mortals seem to have begotten Gods to have their own garb and voice and form.27
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.13”Now if horses or oxen lions had hands or power to paint and make the works of art that men make, then would horses give their Gods horse-like forms in painting or sculpture, and oxen ox-like forms, even each after its own kind.
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.14Clement of Alexandria Miscellanies
“28The Greeks give their Gods human passions as well as human shape; and even as each race of men depict their forms like their own —in the words of Xenophanes:
even so they represent their souls and imagine them possessed by the same emotions.”The Aethiop saith that his Gods are snub-nosed and black, the Thracian that his have blue eyes and red hair —
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.15Clement of Alexandria Miscellanies
“ Bacchus was the name given not only to Dionysus but to all the participators in his rites, and even to the branches carried by the votaries. Compare Xenophanes in the Lampoons :
” Scholiast on AristophanesBacchi of pine stand all around the firm-built house.
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“29Xenophanes: —
” Stobaeus Physical Selections [on the nature of Time and its parts, and of how much it is the cause]The Gods vouchsafed not unto man knowledge of all things from the beginning, but he seeketh and in course of time inventeth what is better.
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“According to some writers Thales was the first to study astronomy and to foretell the eclipses of the sun and fix the solstices. ... Which is the reason why he is so wonderful to Xenophanes and Herodotus.” Diogenes Laertius Lives of the Philosophers
“Returning home, Epimenides shortly after passed away, at the age, according to Phlegon, of a hundred and fifty-seven ... Xenophanes of Colophon, speaking as he says from hearsay, makes it a hundred and fifty-four.” Diogenes Laertius Lives of the Philosophers
“Simonides was accused of miserliness ... Aristophanes very wittily ridicules them both in the same sentence ...30 and records that he was niggardly; hence Xenophanes calls him a
” Scholiast on Aristophanes [‘Sophocles is changing into Simonides’]skinflint
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“... and in Xenophanes in the 4th Book of the Lampoons :
” Herodian On PeculiaritiesThen would a young man come to desire a young serving-maid.
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“The form
or Eryx is found in the 5th Book of Xenophanes' Lampoons.”Erycus
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.20Scholiast on Homer
“Compare Xenophanes of Colophon in the Parodies :31
” Athenaeus Doctors at Dinner [on chick-pease]Such things should be said beside the fire in winter-time when a man reclines full-fed on a soft couch drinking the sweet wine and munching chick-pease, —such things as Who and whence art thou?32 and how old art thou, good sir? of what age wast thou when the Mede33 came?
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On Nature
“34Well says Xenophanes of Colophon when he teaches that God is one, and without body:
” Clement of Alexandria MiscellaniesThere's one God greatest among Gods and men, who is like to mortals neither in form nor mind.35
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“36For if the divine exists it is a living thing, and if it is a living thing it sees with all of itself:
” Sextus Empiricus Against the Mathematiciansis all eye, all mind, all ear.
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“And Xenophanes declares that it perceives everything, in these words:
” Simplicius on Aristotle Physics [on the All]but without toil it perceiveth and agitateth all things with its mind.
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“So that when Xenophanes says that the All stays in the same place and does not move —
—he does not mean, etc.”It ever abideth in one place and never moveth, nor doth it beseem it to go now this way and now that;
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.25Simplicius on Aristotle Physics [on the All]
“37Xenophanes declares that everything comes of earth, for this is what he himself says:
” Aetius in Theodoret On Matter and the UniverseFor all things come of earth and in earth all things end.
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“Xenophanes does not believe that the earth is suspended in space, but holds that it extends downwards to infinity:
” Achilles Introduction to Aratus PhaenomenaThis end of the earth we see above at our feet where it approacheth the air; the lower goeth to the unending.
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“38Porphyrius however declares that Xenophanes held that dryness and witness, by which I mean earth and water, were ‘elements’ or first principles, and quotes this line of his to prove it:
” Philoponus on Aristotle PhysicsWhatever becomes and grows, it is all earth and water.
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“39Xenophanes in the poem On Nature :
” Scholiast on the Iliad [from Crates of Mallus]The sea is the source of water and the source of wind; for without the great ocean there would be no wind nor flowing rivers nor the rainwater of the sky; may the great ocean is the father of clouds and winds and rivers.
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“We must consider the sun as Hyperion , that is ‘who ever goeth over’ the earth, as I think is said by Xenophanes of Colophon:
” Heracleitus Homeric Allegoriesand the Sun that goeth over and warmeth the earth
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“[‘snakes . . . like rainbows’]: in curve or colour; compare Xenophanes:
” Scholiast on the IliadShe whom they call Iris,40 she too41 is a cloud, purple and red and yellow to view.
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“42According to some writers Xenophanes of Colophon appears to agree with Homer, for he says:
” Sextus Empiricus Against the MathematiciansWe all came from earth and water.
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“43Thus the Pythagoreans; Xenophanes, according to those who interpret him so differently when he says:
seems to abolish, not perhaps all ‘apprehension,’ but science and infallibility, etc.”And in truth no man hath been or ever will be that knoweth about the Gods and all that I speak of; for even though he chance to say the fullest truth, yet he knoweth it not in himself; there's fancy in all things;44
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.33Sextus Empiricus Against the Mathematicians
“Ammonius here quoted, as was his wont, the words of Xenophanes:
” Plutarch Dinner-table Problems:Let this now be held as resembling the truth.
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“45And again:
” Herodian On ‘Doubtful’ Syllables [after fr. 10]as many as have ever appeared to the sight of men46
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“And Xenophanes says:
” Herodian On PeculiaritiesIn certain caverns pure water drips; for the singular σπέας does not occur.
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“47No comparative in -ων has υ in the penultimate syllable; the form γλύσσων ‘sweeter,’ therefore, used by Xenophanes, is remarkable:
” Herodian On ‘Doubtful’ Syllables [after fr. 10]Had not God made honey yellow,48 they had said that figs were far sweeter.
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“Mulberries: —These are called μόρα by Aeschylus, who gives the name of συκάμινα to the wild variety, the fruit of the bramble. They might also perhaps be called κεράσια , for we find the tree κερασός
in Xenophanes On Nature.49”cherry-tree
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.38Pollux Onomasticon
“ βρόταχος
Ionic for βάτραχος ..; compare Xenophanes.”frog
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“[rule of the nouns in -ρος ; σιρός , ‘silo’ or pit for storing corn]: One of the ‘Sillographers’ or writers of lampoons writes the first syllable long, maybe lengthening it, methinks because of the ρ . The Sillographers are Xenophanes, Timon, and some others.” Tzetzes on Dionysius Periegetes
“ βληστρισμός — a tossing or throwing about ... compare Xenophanes of Colophon:
ἐβλήστριζον for ἐρριπταζόμην. 50”But as for me I went tossing myself from city to city;
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.40Erotian Glossary to Hippocrates
“And Xenophanes aptly says:
but as though a strong man should beat a weak or challenge him to a beating.”This challenge to an oath from impious to pious is not fair;
CURFRAG.tlg-0267.41Aristotle Rhetoric [on oaths]