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[185e] for the sake of young men's souls?


So what we have to consider is whether one of us is skilled in treatment of the soul, and is able to treat it rightly, and which of us has had good teachers.

But I say, Socrates, have you never noticed how some people have become more skilled in certain things without teachers than others with them?

Yes, I have, Laches; people, that is, whom you would not care to trust on their mere statement that they were good practitioners, unless they could put forward some example of their personal skill—some work well carried out—

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