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[196c] perhaps Nicias thinks he does mean something, and is not talking just for the sake of talking. So let us ask him to explain more clearly what is in his mind; and if we find that he means something, we will agree with him; if not, we will instruct him.

Then, Socrates, if you would like to ask him, please do so: I daresay I have done enough asking.

Well, I see no objection, since the question will be on behalf of us both.

Very well, then.

Now tell me, Nicias, or rather, tell us—for Laches and I are sharing the argument between us—do you say that courage is knowledge

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