previous next

Τοῦτο μὲν...ὅτου. Rettig, Rückert and Lehrs put a comma before μεμνημένος, rendering “hoc igitur apud animum serva (sc. alicujus esse) atque cujus sit, memento.” Hommel and Hug, on the other hand, follow Ast and Schleierm. in removing the comma, explaining ὅτου (sc. Ἔρως ἔρως ἐστίν) as epexegetic of τοῦτο, and construing φύλαξον μεμνημένος closely together: thus Schleierm. renders “Dieses nun, habe Socrates gesagt, halte noch bei dir fast in Gedanken, wovon sie (er) Liebe ist.” On this latter view—which is certainly preferable—we must suppose Socrates to be alluding to the definition of the object of love (viz. κάλλος) previously given by Agathon (in 197 B), while debarring him from restating it at this point in the discussion.

ἐπιθυμεῖ αὐτοῦ. For αὐτοῦ resuming ἐκείνου, cp. 195 A, Soph. O. T. 248. Observe that the entire argument here is based on the identification of ἔρως with ἐπιθυμία (see 205 D): cp. the use of ἐρᾶν in Theogn. 256 πρῆγμα δὲ τερπνότατον, τοῦ τις ἐρᾷ, τὸ τυχεῖν. Cp., for the question here discussed, Lysis 221 D f.

ἀντὶ τοῦ εἰκότος. Cp. Phaedrus 267 A, 269 D; see Blass, Att. Bereds. I. 78.

ἐπιθυμεῖν οὗ ἐνδεές ἐστιν. Cp. Lysis 221 D τό γε ἐπιθυμοῦν, οὗ ἂν ἐνδεὲς , τούτου ἐπιθυμεῖ: Eryx. 405 E αἱ δ᾽ ἐπιθυμίαι πᾶσαι οὐδὲν ἕτερον ἔνδειαί τινων: Gorg. 496 D. A similar theory is implied in Phileb. 35 A κενούμενος... ἐπιθυμεῖ τῶν ἐναντίων πάσχει: κενούμενος γὰρ ἐρᾷ πληροῦσθαι (which also illustrates the use of ἐρᾶν and ἐπιθυμεῖν as synonyms). Cp. also Isocr. Hel. 219 A (quoted below, on 200 C).

Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States License.

An XML version of this text is available for download, with the additional restriction that you offer Perseus any modifications you make. Perseus provides credit for all accepted changes, storing new additions in a versioning system.

hide References (11 total)
  • Commentary references from this page (11):
    • Isocrates, Helen, 1
    • Plato, Phaedrus, 267a
    • Plato, Phaedrus, 269d
    • Plato, Philebus, 35a
    • Plato, Symposium, 195a
    • Plato, Symposium, 197b
    • Plato, Symposium, 200c
    • Plato, Symposium, 205d
    • Plato, Lysis, 221d
    • Plato, Gorgias, 496d
    • Sophocles, Oedipus Tyrannus, 248
hide Display Preferences
Greek Display:
Arabic Display:
View by Default:
Browse Bar: