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μέχρι...δεῦρο. So Laws 814 D τῆς...δυνάμεως τὸ μέχρι δεῦρο ἡμῖν εἰρήσθω.

καὶ πρὸς ὁντινοῦν λέγειν. This reminds one of Diotima's language in 209 E ff. (ταῦτα μὲν οὖν κτλ.).

τὸ λεγόμενον κτλ. Photius explains thus: οἶνος ἄνευ παίδων δύο παροιμίαι: μὲν οἶνος καὶ ἀλήθεια, δὲ οἶνος καὶ παῖδες ἀληθεῖς. For the first of these, cp. Alcaeus fr. 57 B, Theocr. Id. XXIX. 1. We might render “In wine and wean is candour seen.” Cp. Schol. ad h. l.; Athen. II. 37 E Φιλόχορος δέ φησιν ὅτι οἱ πίνοντες οὐ μόνον ἑαυτοὺς ἐμφανίζουσιν οἵτινές εἰσιν, ἀλλὰ καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἕκαστον ἀνακαλύπτουσι, παρρησίαν ἄγοντες. ὅθενοἶνος καὶ ἀλήθειαλέγεται: Alcaeus fr. 53 οἶνος γὰρ ἀνθρώποις δίοπτρον: Hor. Sat. I. 4. 89 condita cum verax aperit praecordia Liber. Similar sayings about the effects of wine are Ar. Plut. 1048 μεθύων ὀξύτερον βλέπει: Theogn. 479 ff. οἶνος...κοῦφον ἔθηκε νόον. The explanations of H. Müller (“Trunkene sagten die Wahrheit, mochten Diener zugegen sein oder nicht”) and of Hommel (“si proverbio illo vinum, quod neque praesentiam neque absentiam servorum curat (alluding to the ἀκόλουθος of 217 A), non esset veridicum”) are clearly wrong. Cp. Xen. Symp. VIII. 24.

ἀφανίσαι. “To keep dark”: notice the play ἀφανίσαι...φαίνεται, which Lehrs represents by “eine helle That des S. ins Dunkle zu setzen.” φαίνεται after the impf. ἦν is one of Alc.'s anacolutha.

ὑπερήφανον. The adj. here, though prima facie eulogistic, evidently contains (as Rückert notes) “grata quaedam ambiguitas,” as alluding to the ὕβρις of Socr., cp. the use of ὑπερηφανία to denote “superbia cum contemtione coniuncta” (Ast) in 219 C. For the good sense of the word, cp. Phaedo 96 A, Gorg. 511 D.

τὸ τοῦ δηχθέντος κτλ. For this proverbial case, cp. Aristides or. 15, I. p. 234 ὥσπερ τὸν ὑπὸ τῆς ἐχίδνης φασὶ πληγέντα μὴ ἐθέλειν ἑτέρῳ λέγειν ἀλλ᾽ ὅστις πεπείραται: id. or. 49, II. p. 395: Xen. Symp. IV. 28 ὥσπερ ὑπὸ θηρίου τινὸς δεδηγμένος...ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ ὥσπερ κνῆσμά τι ἐδόκουν ἔχειν: id. Mem. I. 3. 12 ff. ἐνίησι γάρ τι τὰ φαλάγγια κατὰ τὸ δῆγμα...ὥστε μαίνεσθαι ποιεῖν. This last passage refers to the “bite of love,” for which cp. Soph. fr. 721 ἔρωτος δῆγμα: Socrates (Bergk P. L. G. II. p. 288) πόθῳ δηχθείς. Rückert is no doubt right in holding that there is allusion here “ad certam fabellam, nobis licet ignotam.” Cp. also Aesch. Cho. 996.

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