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πρεσβύτερον. Poll. II. 12 καὶ πρεσβεύειν τὸ τιμᾶν παρὰ Πλάτωνι καὶ τὸοὐδέν ἐστι πρεσβύτερονἀντὶ τοῦοὐδὲν τιμιώτερον: 186 B, 188 C supra.

συλλήπτορα. For the ἐραστής as an aid to ἀρετή, see 185 A; cp. Socrates' description of Eros as συνεργός, 212 B. μοι was taken by Stallb. with συλλήπτορα, by Rückert with εἶναι, but it is better to say with Hommel that, as an ethic dat., “ad totum verborum complexum refertur.”

κυριώτερον. “More competent”: cp. Theaet. 161 D.

τοὺς φρονίμους...ἄφρονας. Compare the similar aristocratic sentiment of Agathon, 194 B. It is worth noticing that whereas Pausanias had spoken of those who disapprove of χαρίζεσθαι as τινές, here they are termed οἱ πολλοί. Cp. Xen. Mem. I. 6. 13. Similarly Browne, Rel. Med. “This noble affection falls not on vulgar and common constitutions.”

σφόδρα ἑαυτοῦ. “Very characteristically”: cp. “suum illud est” Cic. Tusc. I. 42. 99.

οὐ φαῦλος. “Kein Dummkopf” (Hug); cp. 174 C, 175 E. Socr. means that if Alcib. proposes to make such a profitable bargain, bartering his own cheap κάλλος for the rare κάλλος of Socr., he evidently is a “cute” man of business. Cp. Diog. L. III. 63 γοῦν φαῦλος λέγεται παρ᾽ αὐτῷ (sc. Platoni) καὶ ἐπὶ τοῦ ἁπλοῦ, ὡς καὶ παρ᾽ Εὐριπίδῃ ἐν Λικυμνίῳ κτλ. (see Eurip. fr. 476 N. φαῦλον, ἄκομψον, τὰ μέγιστ᾽ ἀγαθόν κτλ.).

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