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οὐδὲ γάρ: leads over to a criticism of Socrates' view p e r s e, the question thus far having been his manner of procedure in the case of Polus.

κρεῖττον κτἑ.: in the opinion of the masses, the same is true of all who are without the enjoyments of life. Cf. Phaedo 65 a. The regular relative after an indefinite (τινός) is ὅστις, which frequently has a conditional idea, and then takes the cond. neg. μή. H. 699 a.

31 f.

αὐτὸς . . . κήδηται: the same ideas were presented in 480 a. Here every man is expressly thrown upon his own resources and the state abolished.

ἀλλ᾽ , οἶμαι κτἑ.: this exposition of the origin of conventional right is designed by Callicles to show the superior authority of the natural right which he advocates.

οἱ τιθέμενοι: “the law-makers.” The active is used of the law-giver. On the force of the article with the predicate, see H. 669 a; G. 141, N. 8.

καὶ οἱ πολλοί: it is just this addition which contains the most important point, according to Callicles' real view, though he keeps it in the background, because for him the contrast between stronger and weaker is of more value for his argument. It is this begging of the question to which Socrates first turns his attention in 488 c ff.

πρὸς αὑτούς: usually we find βλέποντες, but the preposition itself is sufficient. Kr. 68, 39, 5.

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