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[294b] Dionysodorus, I said—for now I can see both of you are serious; before, I could hardly prevail on you to be so—do you yourselves really know everything? Carpentry, for instance, and shoe-making?

Certainly, he said.

And you are good hands at leather-stitching?

Why yes, in faith, and cobbling, he said.

And are you good also at such things as counting the stars, and the sand?

Certainly, he said: can you think we would not admit that also?

Here Ctesippus broke in: Be so good,

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