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[639b]

Athenian
Do we call the man who possesses only nautical science, whether or not he suffers from sea-sickness, a good commander on a ship—or what?

Megillus
By no means good, if along with his skill he suffers in the way you say.

Athenian
And how about the army commander? Is a man fit for command, provided that he has military science, even though he be a coward and sea-sick with a kind of tipsy terror when danger comes?

Megillus
Certainly not.

Athenian
And suppose he has no military skill, besides being a coward?

Megillus
You are describing an utterly worthless fellow, not a commander of men at all, but of the most womanish of women.

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