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And further let us add to these the pleasures of knowledge, if they appear to us not to have hunger for knowledge or pangs of such hunger as their source.

I agree to that.

Well, if men are full of knowledge and then lose it through forgetfulness, do you see any pains in the losses?

Not by their inherent nature, but sometimes there is pain in reflecting on the event,

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