[208c] ‘Really, can this in truth be so, most wise Diotima?’“Whereat she, like the professors in their glory: ‘Be certain of it, Socrates; only glance at the ambition of the men around you, and you will have to wonder at the unreasonableness of what I have told you, unless you are careful to consider how singularly they are affected with the love of winning a name, “and laying up fame immortal for all time to come.”1 For this, even more than for their children, they are ready to run all risks,
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