Plato, Gorgias, section 495d

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[495d]

Socrates
Well now, are pleasure and knowledge the same thing, or different?

Callicles
Different, I presume, O sage of sages.

Socrates
And courage too, is that different from pleasure?

Callicles
Of course it is.

Socrates
Come now, let us be sure to remember this, that Callicles the Acharnian said pleasant and good were the same, but knowledge and courage were different both from each other and from the good.

Callicles
And Socrates of Alopece refuses to grant us this; or does he grant it?

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 3 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967.

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